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- Mar 13
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interesting, your art is amazing. not
i know all of that i just don't really care and is you think that your comment has made a change on my life, think twice i don't give a fuck about what you think, and i wasn't talking to you 
so mind your own business~ yeah?
so mind your own business~ yeah?and i love anime and shit like that and i know that is all for the sake of money since most whores do that anyway, but still i hate how they put the image of women like that, there are several good anime with women on them that their breast is not a giant octopus head, but since you are male how would you know? right.
and disgusting is the character not the person art, i am better then that.
i talked about the character, not art, why would i call someone art disgusting when i know that mine isn't that great either? but at least WE DRAW. and i'm getting better as the days pass~ you?
and i don't even know why i am justifying myself -sigh- haters gonna hate you just gave me more motivation, you should be proud of yourself ! 
D
Dcontinue to be a NOBODY since NOBODY cares
ohh and sorry if English is not my mother language...not.
Calm down, kids. Let's settle this fairly.
1) Considering that neither of you have any art pieces of your own, I don't think any of you gets to belittle each other for artistic talent. Plus, it has nothing to do with the actual argument being made. It's not a competition.
2) The internet is a public forum where everyone and anyone can enter a conversation without permission, regardless of whether or not they were formally spoken to.
3) While Graaf does make a couple of points, his point is lost in some of the misogyny he exhibited in his point about women being better than that.
4) You said you were insulting Ikaros by labeling her disgusting because she was well endowed. This is body shaming. If you watched the anime, you would know Ikaros is a very sweet and innocent girl that merely wishes to make her friend and master happy. Insulting and demeaning anyone because of their body type is very uncool. Calling a wp,am "disgusting" because she is well endowed is the equivalent of insulting women with flat chests because they are not well endowed. Simply because a person does not match your preferred body type does not make them less of a person.
5) The statement "we women are better than that" is just sexist, because it is a generalization about all women and their preference in art style and sexual attraction. Women can like large bosoms as well. Women can draw women with large bosoms.
6) Labeling women "whores" because of the examples Graaf used to show them using their sex appeal is slut shaming as well as very shallow.
7) You take issue with the sexualization of women in anime but are apart of clubs that sexualize men and yaoi. This is hypocritical. There is nothing wrong with finding aspects of people sexy, but do not forget the person attached to what you find sexy. People are people, not objects for you to dehumanize. If you find sexualizing women offensive, you find sexualization of men offensive. You cannot cherry pick what is and isn't good based on personal preference. If you think one drawing or song isn't art, then none of them are. If sexualizing women for sales and appeal is bad, then all sexualization is bad. All art is art, regardless of quality. As for whether it is good or bad, that is subjective.
1) Considering that neither of you have any art pieces of your own, I don't think any of you gets to belittle each other for artistic talent. Plus, it has nothing to do with the actual argument being made. It's not a competition.
2) The internet is a public forum where everyone and anyone can enter a conversation without permission, regardless of whether or not they were formally spoken to.
3) While Graaf does make a couple of points, his point is lost in some of the misogyny he exhibited in his point about women being better than that.
4) You said you were insulting Ikaros by labeling her disgusting because she was well endowed. This is body shaming. If you watched the anime, you would know Ikaros is a very sweet and innocent girl that merely wishes to make her friend and master happy. Insulting and demeaning anyone because of their body type is very uncool. Calling a wp,am "disgusting" because she is well endowed is the equivalent of insulting women with flat chests because they are not well endowed. Simply because a person does not match your preferred body type does not make them less of a person.
5) The statement "we women are better than that" is just sexist, because it is a generalization about all women and their preference in art style and sexual attraction. Women can like large bosoms as well. Women can draw women with large bosoms.
6) Labeling women "whores" because of the examples Graaf used to show them using their sex appeal is slut shaming as well as very shallow.
7) You take issue with the sexualization of women in anime but are apart of clubs that sexualize men and yaoi. This is hypocritical. There is nothing wrong with finding aspects of people sexy, but do not forget the person attached to what you find sexy. People are people, not objects for you to dehumanize. If you find sexualizing women offensive, you find sexualization of men offensive. You cannot cherry pick what is and isn't good based on personal preference. If you think one drawing or song isn't art, then none of them are. If sexualizing women for sales and appeal is bad, then all sexualization is bad. All art is art, regardless of quality. As for whether it is good or bad, that is subjective.